WHAT OUR CLIENTS ARE SAYING
17SEP2024 Good Evening, I would like to purchase 2 more of the same fenders from you. Can you send me payment details. The two I purchased from you worked great. Thank you. Dave (USA Henderson & Excelsior)
21JUL2024 Hi, I received the Dayton fenders. To say they are great is an understatement! Incredible work. I really really hope you can sell your company to a craftsman close to your capabilities. Thanks again, Mike Hanlon (USA, Dayton)
15JUL2024 Good morning team, OMG, I have a package. You guys are very efficient, very impressive cardbox box, the guards look very very nice. thanks so much. mike (NZ, Ariel)
11JUL2024 Michael,: Your mudguards arrived a couple od days ago. Thank you. They are perfect. regards, Tom (Canada, Henderson & Waverley)
06MAY2024 Andrew and Michael, Attached is a picture of the completed 39 Francis Barnett Cruiser after it's first test ride. The fenders look great and fit perfectly (even the holes you marked were really accurate). Thanks again for the assistance in getting this old beast looking good, and it rides as good as it looks! Mark (USA, Francis Barnett)
26MAR2024 Hi Andrew, just thought I'd let you know that the Mudguard arrived today and I'm over the moon with it. Thanks again for your help with this and pushing this through for me despite having lots of work waiting to be done. Thank you. Kind regards Lee (UK, Triumph)
18FEB2024 Hello Andrew, I received the package this week and I am very happy with your work. It ' is perfect Thanks again for everything? Patrice (France, Douglas)
10FEB2024 For any one that may be looking these fenders are the very best out there and these Gents are so great to deal with. The packing was great and the shipping time was quick. Thanks for making parts to get these great old bikes back together. Wayne (USA, Ace)
30JAN2024 GOT MY FENDER TODAY AND IT IS PERFECT!!! THANK YOU FOR AN EXCELLENT PRODUCT AND EXCELLENT CRAFTSMANSHIP. MONEY WELL SPENT! (Kim, USA, Indian)
24JAN2024 Michael, The fenders and number plate arrived safely today. They are beautiful and I am so happy with them. You and Andrew out did yourselves on these! Attached is a photo of the rear fender in place. It took a little bit of fitting, but it goes on nicely and is very secure. I may get around to installing the front tomorrow, just test fitting it showed me how smart you guys were to not drill the holes. They are close, but I think I will have to make some adjustments to get it to fit the fork blades. Mark (USA, Francis Barnett)
29DEC2023 Micheal, I have attached photo’s of my Velocette Kss/Venom which has the mudguards you made in the Clubman/Thruxton type. It has been a slow project as I kept diverting to other bikes whilst the search for parts continued. The guards painted in Mercedes Mid silver were easy to fit and required NO “adjustment”. Regards Paul (Australia, Velocette)
21DEC2023 Hi Micheal, I have squeezed the mudguard into the forks. It’s looking great. Now need to drill some holes. I need to change all the stays due to the change of mudguard. It’s all looking good up until now, thanks for your help. I am impressed by the quality of your work. Kind Regards, Angus (Switzerland, Ariel)
03AUG2023 HI MICHAEL, JUST GOT MY 1912 INDIAN REAR FENDER. IT ARRIVED IN PERFECT SHAPE AND IT IS A WORK OF ART! I COULD NOT BE MORE PLEASED. THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME OUT, MY FRIEND. KIM (USA, Indian)
13JUL2023 Hi Michael, Just let you know that fender arrived today, very nice fender, and very nice welldone workmanship. Look foreward you one day also make the front fender. Best regards John (Norway, Triumph)
07JUN2023 G’day Michael, Received both guards a few weeks back , just getting on to fitting one on to my M8. It fits quite nicely, thanks for the excellent job 👍 Warwick (Australia, AJS)
02JUN2023 Mudguard arrived today Friday 2nd June looks excellent no damage packaging excellent. Very pleased well worth the wait. It’s been a pleasure dealing with Vintage Steel. Thanks, Gerard (UK, AJS)
25MAY2023 Michael, The fenders showed up at my house this weekend in perfect shape. They are truly a work of art, thank you. Bob (USA, Harley Davidson)
08FEB2023 Michael The fenders arrived safely on Saturday. All I can say is beautiful. The craftmanship on them is stunning, the quality and amount of work that goes into them is apparent, just by looking at them. Thank you. The only thing I cant figure out is how you can get a package from Australia to Louisiana faster than if I send a package from Louisiana to Los Angeles, by US mail. Once I figure out whether or not I’m going to proceed with my 1913 Harley build, Ill contact you for a set of fenders for that. Thanks again Bob (USA, Harley Davidson)
06JAN2023 Good evening Andrew and Michael, Just received the Henderson De Luxe fenders... Can't get rid of the grin on my face! Absolute quality! Great workmanship. Thank you very much your kind and and flexible service. Highly appreciated! Have a great 2023! Best regards, Jouni (Finland, Henderson)
31DEC2022 Hi Michael and Andrew, I got my fenders today!! They look amazing. Thank you so much. You are true craftsmen. Just wanted to reach out to say thanks, working with you was fast and easy. So glad I found you guys. Have a good one. Glenn (USA, Cycle Car)
09DEC2022 Hi Michael, Happy to report that I received the mudguard yesterday and did an immediate mock up with it. It looks like very close to a straight fit once I get everything in place. Thank you and cheers from Rolf in Copenhagen. (Denmark, AJS)
27SEP2022 Hi Guys, Just got the Guards; Fan-bloody-tastic! They are very very close in profile to the original Ive borrowed, perhaps 2mm shallower but look fab and I’m sure no one will notice! I’ll put a recommendation on the Marston Sunbeam website if you are happy. Thank you very much, Vbrgds, Huw (UK, Sunbeam)
23SEP2022 Hey Gentlemen; The sidecar fender arrived today and it is the first time I've described a fender as beautiful! Very satisfied, I thank you, Dave Banks (Canada, Harley Davidson)
08JUL2022 Hi Michael and Andrew! Thanks a lot, the box arrived this week. The parts are excellent and fit perfectly to the bike! Regards Christof (Austria, BSA)
24JUN2022 Hi, The Veloce guards arrived. They look awesome. Love it when a plan comes together. Will catch up with you at Caboolture, Cheers Keith (QLD, AUS
23JUN2022 Hi Michael Got the fender ! Perfect job as allways! Thank you Roger (Sweden)
01JUN2022, Still working on my Model P but just to let you know the mudguards you made fit perfectly - see attached photos: Don (USA, Triumph)
31MAY2022, G’day, Time to move on to my next project 1924 AJS 350cc SV, I’m interested in a rear mudguard… And thanks for the work you did on the front and rear mudguard for my 1924 Big X Excelsior , very pleased, Cheers, Warwick (Australia, Excelsior)
28MAY2022, My 14 with your fenders. Almost ready for paint!, Dan (USA, Harley Davidson)
25MAY2022, Beautiful Work (USA, Pierce Arrow)
14JAN2022 Hi Andrew, gaurds arrived yesterday very pleased with them many thanks Wayne (NZ, Velocette)
13JAN2022 Hi Michael and Andrew, the last days have given me some more headache, as the parcel seemed to be stuck in Frankfurt, and even more so becaue both DHL and DHLexpress knew nothing about it - DHL is still listing the status of October 14 2021 as last movement and DHLexpress stil does not recognise the tracking number. However, the morning the doorbell rang and there it was! I gave the driver a good tip which seemed to surprise him, but I was so happy that the parcel had turned up again. I have not tried the mudguards on yet, but I must say, the finish is really superior to anything I have seen before! Thanks a lot, and all the best. Wilfried (Germany, Brough Superior)
16DEC2021 Hi Andrew, i collected the fenders for my Thor`s and Harley Project on the post today. The fenders looks great, you guys have done a marvles job making them. Thanks and happy Christmas and a happy New year. Best regards Gunnar. (Norway, Thor & Harley)
Thanks Gunnar, Lots of international freight has been stalled in a European bottleneck lately, good to see yours got through in less than 5 weeks from a little country town in Western Australia to an even smaller dot on the map in the Norwegian Fjords, Michael, Vintage Steel
13OCT2021 Hey Mates, I got my guards Saturday! Brought them to my restorer today. We were both very impressed with the quality and fit. We spent the afternoon on fitment and all went well. The project was stalled due to Covid, but the guards definatly put a spark under our collective asses. Thanks for the quick shipping and excellent craftsmanship. Kevin (USA, Norton)
08OCT2021 ,hello we got the fenders they are the best we have ever seen! however the valance should not have been fastend to the front fender ,1911 harley does not have a front fender valance.we wanted the valance for other years of bikes,so i guess we will need a front fender for a 1911 harley single no valance.can you help us? thank you mark (USA, Harley)
Sure can Mark, thanks for your feedback, we make them all in-house so can do as you wish. Michael, Vintage Steel
04OCT2021 Hi Michael, You had asked for a few pictures once mounted on the frame and forks. These guards that you produce are the best of quality and fit, by far, from anywhere in the world!!!! Great Guys and easy to deal with, Thank you ……Ps the bike is a 1930 KSS velo. Thanks for helping out, appreicate it. Regards Reece (NZ Velocette)
23SEP2021 Hi Michael, Guards finally turned up today. Quality.... perfect , cant ask for better. Thanks heeps. Will post some photos soon. Regards Reece (NZ Velocette)
27AUG2021 hi Michael, I wanted to let you know that your wonderful mudguards arrived safely earlier today. The were superbly well boxed and are things of great beauty. I am super pleased with them thank you.
In the spirit of your note, there is one thing I should let you know is that whilst the front mudguard fits exactly perfectly and looks superb, there ear guard is slightly too wide. I will attach a coupe of photos. This means that it will not slide up inside the rear frame to fasten the loop over without some unfortunate grinding. The new guard is 3.93in wide at this point and the original is 3.653 in.
What would you think is the best way to accommodate this? I am some way from a full dry fit, but when I get around to it, it occurs to me that its quite hard to get the rear guard in exactly the correct spot without first being able to push it up into place on the frame. I guess I will just have to estimate its location. It seems a shame to grind a relief in each side, and I am mindful of not opening up the fold, but unless you think I can press a relief into the guard, I guess grinding or filing is the only way. [ Vintage Steel comment - It’s an easy fix and hopefully you can get someone to help hold the guard for you while you do it. (Instructions and pictures attached ). Do not cut or grind the edge as this will dramatically weaken the guard and cause a fatigue crack. The pressing should probably only need to go as deep as the main part of the guard (ie the Panama section) It should be enough to get the clearance for this earlier model frame.]
Anyway, I am truly pleased with the guards, they are excellent. I dont suppose you make chain cases by any chance? photos will arrive in a second e mail as I am having trouble attaching this end for some reason. all the best, Andrew ( UK, Ariel)
12AUG2021 Hi Andrew and Michael. My flat tank Norton guards arrived today and you have one very happy customer. Excellent workmanship . Thank you. Gary (New Zealand, Norton)
09JUL2021 Hello Andrew, the fender arrived ! And looks great 👍👍 Thanks for all !! Great deal , thank you Best regards, Juergen (Germany, Harley)
30JUN2021 Dear Michael and Andrew, I was somewhat shocked when I received this email at the thought that the supply of such high quality items could possibly be lost to the various motorcycle restorers. However is to be hoped that there could be some interested person or body prepared to take over your successful business. The recent supply of my Norton mudguards are of such excellent quality that they have resided in our sunroom – even my wife who is not mechanically minded suggested that they be shown to visitors. ……. Regards and thanks again. Colin (NSW, Norton)
08JUN2021 Hi Michael and Andrew, Thank you. I got an email from Australia Post this morning that it is on the way. Also just watched your video that was attached to the email. It was very interesting. I had always wondered about rolling the profile of the guard. If it was done straight from the flat sheet in a series of steps with different profile rollers or in one go but I noticed that you folded it first then rolled it. Most people do not appreciate how much work goes into hand making something that is of a good quality. Can not wait to see the mudguard when it arrives. Kind regards, Joshua Kingston, Jorock Welding Pty Ltd (NSW, Velocette)
31MAY2021 Hi Michael, Received the guards in excellent condition they are perfect for my bike only have to make small adjustment to rear guard where it fixes to the frame behind gearbox very simple job thanks for your help. Steve (NSW, Velocette)
22MAY2021 Hi Andrew, The guards have arrived and look to be spot on thanks. All indentations appear to be in the correct positions. A first class reproduction indeed. Regards, Colin (NSW, Norton)
11MAY2021 Hi All - Just want to send a sincere "Thank You" to the guys at Vintage Steel for the Ace fenders that arrived safely in the beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota! Working with them was absolutely flawless... From the initial order through delivery, I was in the loop all the way, and could not have asked for a better trade. Thanks again Guys! You are the best! Dan (USA, Ace)
06APR2021 Hi, I received the veteran BSA guards today and they look excellent. Im looking forward to getting them painted and fitted to the bike. The packaging also was great with no damage at all. Thanks and regards Chris (NZ, BSA)
02APR2021 G'day Michael, I've recently knocked up some stays and fitted the fixed and removable guard. I'm very happy with the guard that you produced, once again, thank you very much. Some pics attached. Matt (VIC, Rudge)
18MAR2021 Hi Andrew! As promised, I would send you a feedback when the mudguard has arrived.. With a few problems at the customs in DK., I finally received the mudguard undamaged last week. I must say that it is really quality made and it fits the frame exactly. I will not hesitate to recommend Vintage Steel to anyone if the need occurs. Kind regards Hans (Denmark, Norton)
16MAR2021 Hello Michael, I have had a look at your web pages and I say I am impressed! I knew that the Australians have a long tradition of making stuff themselves rather than waiting for a ship from England to arrive, but I doubt if there is a tinsmith in England making such fine mudguards! Wilfried (Germany, Brough Superior)
10MAR2021 I live about 15 kilometres from the Vintage Steel guys. I call in from time to time to see what’s on the agenda. YES I can vouch for high-quality of goods produced YES they are sending their wares overseas as well as Australia. I had a front mudguard for a 1930 Harley Model BA made VERY GOOD. Norm Hart Boyanup Western Australia
To: PrewarWDAJSM@AJSMatchless.groups.io
Subject: Re: [PrewarWDAJSM] Mudguard blanks
I second that. I've bought stuff from them, and they are very,very good.. Charlie
On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 01:36:53 PM PST, RohanB <…………..@gmail.com> wrote:
If you are after quality - which comes at a price - then try Vintage Steel in Western Australia. These guys are true craftsmen.
https://vintagesteelfenders.com/
11FEB2021 I finally completed the restoration of my 1926 Francis Barnett Model 4 (Fanny B). Attached is a photo of the bike before and after. The new fenders fit perfectly and work great, thanks for your service in making them. Mark (USA, Francis Barnett)
12JAN2021 Hi Guys Guards arrived today thanks, looking good, will get the drilled to suit and off to chromers later this week. Brilliant job, comparison pics attached Regards James (UK, Royal Enfield)
30NOV2020 Finally got my restored Vincent , first start up and ride today, love the fenders from your shop Come for a visit sometime !! …. Very happy I found your fenders for my Vincent. Thanks, Tom (USA, Vincent C Series)
14NOV2020 I have looked over your site and I would like to congratulate you on such a wonderful enterprise, the quilty of work you are doing looks unequaled to anything else I have ever seen! I myself also have English bikes back as far as 1950 and the fenders you offer look absolutely identical in every way to the ones on my 1950 Tiger 🐯 100. Paul (NZ, HotRod)
06NOV2020 Your mudguard now fitted. Very happy with how it all went together. Did have to shorten lifting handle by over an inch to fit your lugs. Don’t know which is correct* but looks good. Regards Stu. (NZ, Ariel Red Hunter) *(Vintage Steel now have two versions, long handle and short handle)
10OCT2020 Hi Michael, My mudguards arrived yesterday in excellent condition and they are exactly what I wanted. Thanks you both very much, I shall recommend your work to others should the occasion arise. Thanks and Regards, Howard (NZ, Norton Special)
15SEP2020 Seen on Facebook…….
03SEP2020 I received the fenders today and feel lucky to get them. US postal service almost lost them and said the zip code on the box was wrong. It turns out it was correct and they just screwed up. Anyway, the fenders are fantastic and so far the front fender is about halfway mounted, and fits perfectly. The rear fender looks good and should be easier to mount than the front. I'll send progress pictures and pictures of the finished bike. It's probably going to be one of the best Francis Barnett 148cc bikes ever! Thanks again for the wonderful work. Mark (USA, Francis Barnett)
16JUN2020 ‘Hi Andrew, I just received the Henderson frnders that you sent. They look beautiful! Great job.’ ….. ‘Your fenders are so nice, it will be a shame to paint them! I'm just kidding of course, but could you imagine having them polished and plated!I LOVE your flat wire strut material! I was never able to locate any. I can't tell you how many struts I have made and filed the sharp edges round. -Pat’ (USA, 1913 Henderson)
12JUN2020 Here’s some feedback worth reading, just got my copy today. See pages 84 and 85.
09JUN2020 I got the fender piece today. I’m thrilled with it. Thank you. I will definitely be recommending you to anyone needing fenders or pieces. Thank you again. Jacob (USA, 841 Indian)
08JUN2020 Hi, ACE Fenders arrived friday, beautiful work, thanks. Regart Jakob (Denmark, Ace)
13MAY2020 Hi Andrew, What you have done sounds perfect. I'm looking forward to receiving them. This will be the third set of your fenders that I have used . Your work is very nice. Thank you very much. Regards, Pat (USA, Henderson)
13MAY2020 My new rear mudguard for my 20 series arrived today from Vintage Steel, local of sorts Western Australia. Lots of discussions, photos , measurements and in the end a wooden form to get the front section sorted, Very pleased 😀 Warwick (Victoria Australia, Excelsior)
02MAY2020 ‘Hi Mike and Andrew,’ …. ‘I think I will take your advise and use the bike as a jig. If you are going to laser cut fender brace tabs anyway fine. At this time I am in no hurry. If you could just bend the braces to fit inside the fenders and ship all that to me I will do the final brace length and tab mounting on the bike. That really is a good suggestion from you and the right way to get a correct fit. In regards to mounting the tabs I thought I saw some slight dimpling on your sample fenders, in the rivet area, that I would like to avoid. No big deal. Just the normal picky bullshit that you probably hear all the time from people that can't even mount a fender let alone make one. The real fact is, you guys make great fenders like no one ever has before in our hobby.’ …… ‘ I am glad you guys are busy and getting new orders in. I know you will be once again swamped when things settle down worldwide. Looks like we are getting close to that. Our stock market is steadily going up a little at a time in anticipation of normalcy. Best, Buster (USA, Yale)
24MAR2020 Just a little note to say what a pleasure it was to install your Super Flash fender. It went on like a fitted Gloove. Dan (Canada, BSA)
12MAR2020 Hi Michael, I finished the resto! Thank you so much for the beautiful mudguards you guys made for this bike!!! Cheers robbie (ACT, Panther)
06MAR2020 Hello received mudguards very very good thanks. Matteo (Italy 1930 Rudge Ulster)
08MAR2020 …. PS The set of guards I bought from you late last year for my 1939 ES2 were absolutely perfect - details exactly as per factory guards! (Rob SA Norton)
24FEB2020 spotted on Norton 16H & Norton Big 4 FaceBook Page: Searching for 16H Mudguards, Vintage Steel.com.au recommended, 25FEB2020: Couldn’t agree more with suggestion of Vintage Steel. They made a pair of guards for my 39 ES2 and they’re perfect! Can’t distinguish them from some factory ones I have. Rob (SA, Norton)
20FEB2020: ….. I’ve been working with some of the blanks I got from you in Las Vegas. Your stuff is really great. Stay well. Alan (USA
17FEB2020: Hi Michael, The guard fits really well I have attached some photos. Kind Regards Kelvin (NZ, 1914 Ariel)
24JAN2020: We are looking for a pair of mudguards, front and rear, for a 1925 Triumph Model P #25a. Can you let us know prices etc, please?
By the way, the one that you made for us to fit a 1923 Model 16H Norton, was excellent - it was a perfect fit straight out of the wrapper! Best regards, Nick (UK 1925 Triumph)
21Jan2020 Hi Michael, I have used your fenders before (both ACE and Henderson) and love your quality. I am in need of a set for a 1913 Henderson but I don't see a specific listing for that on your website. It may be an American blank but I'm not sure. Do you happen to know? I would like to place an order if I can identify the correct profile. Patrick (USA, 1918 Henderson)
07JAN2020 Hello Andrew, Just a quick note to let you know that the mudguard arrived yesterday. It fitted perfectly onto the machine, and we are very pleased with it. If we need another one making for another machine, we will certainly be coming back to you. Best regards, Nick (UK, 1923 Norton)
14AUG2019 Hi Michael The guard has arrived thanks , f*@% it’s a work of art mate thank you so much I will have some photos for you when I get the camera working paul (NSW, Australia, BSA Round Tank)
14AUG2019 Good day micheal & andrew. …………. Ive finally got my mudguard out of customs about 10 days ago. Thank you for your beautiful work. It looks great. It must very rewarding forming artwork like that from a blank piece of steel. I appreciate what you have done. I will spread nothing but the highest praise for your business. Thanks again. KELVIN (NZ 1914 Ariel)
07AUG2019 Hi Andrew & Michael, I received my mudguards and brackets in excellent condition. Your fenders fits very well. I'll refer your business any time. Thanks for all . Regards, Yvon (Canada, HotRod)
30JUL2019 (Essex) fenders are great quality delivery was prompt very happy with product and communications Charles (Canada)
28JUL2019 Thanks for the Panama style mudguard blanks for the racing SS100 I'm restoring. The blades arrived promptly and the workmanship is first class. They are now fitted and look the part. Highly recommended! Howard (UK)
15JUL2019 Received a beautiful package today. Thanks Wes (USA)
12JUL2019 Hi Michael, I was going to use the old rear mudguard but I think since the front one and tail piece are both new and look considerably better I’ll have to get a new rear mudguard made as well...How much approx do you reckon this would be to make with internal strength member and frame mounting clips ect... I can send the original over to copy and of course the drawings will help! Regards Tim (Queensland)
11JUL2019 Hi guys, Finally got a chance to trial fit the front and it looks great. James (Ireland)
10JUL2019 Hello. Your beautiful work has finally arrived. Everything is ok, the packaging has withstood the journey. It is really very beautiful. As soon as I have installed it I will let you have pictures. Thank you. A masterpiece ... A true "work of art"! Well done. Yes, Australian Post sent me a link to track the shipment. Thanks again. Ciao, ninni Pisciotta. (Italy)
04JUL2019 Hi Michael,
The broadcast from Australia has arrived at my place. Thank you for the quick delivery. The fenders are perfect and it is a very good job. Now I can finish my Douglas in the original.
Greetings from Germany and thank you again. Ditmar Blumig (Germany)
03JUL2019 Morning Michael,
I stayed up late last night fitting a guard to see what it looks like, fits perfectly!
I’m really happy with your workmanship. Thanks, Barry Heatley (NSW)
11May2019 The workmanship, attention to detail, dedication and good customer service. The quality of their product speaks for itself. In short; simply the best!!! Dennis Grech (UK)
29APR2019: My name is Kevin Marks. I am restoring a 1949 M.A.C Velocette motor bike. I approached Vintage Steel about making a pair of new mudguards after going on their website. As a result the quality of the product is absolutely exceptional regarding metal finish and contour. This resulted in making them quite easy to fit to the frame. The friendly service and the ease of dealing with the people was a pleasure and you get informed regularly of the manufacturing. I would strongly recommend this company to anybody who is in need of any of their products. Thankyou Michael and Andrew. Regards Kevin
Here’s a couple of comments about Vintage Steel on the Norton Motorcycles Facebook page, May 2019
“Very impressive work. The vintage Norton restoration community owes you a debt of gratitude.”
“The boys make a great product.as good as any copy on the market. Buy with confidence guys”
20NOV2018 HI MICHEAL. JUST SOME FEED BACK THE GUARD FITS PERFECT .KEEP UP THE BEAUTIFUL WORKMAN SHIP. REGARDS GARRY.MAC. (Victoria , Australia 1948 Norton)
· found on the Douglas Motorcycle Forum: https://www.douglasmotorcycles.net/index.php?topic=6575.0
Re: Vintage Steel « Reply #5 on: 25 Feb 2018 at 14:53 »
Hi All
If you want mudguards that are made like the originals and fit out of the box, Vintage Steel are the guys that do it.
After a few emails and measuring the remains of the originals I placed an order for 2 pairs of guards for 1914 2 3/4.
2 weeks later they arrived, all i can say is, awesome, everything the correct size, the valences and belt guard all rolled on to the guards just like the originals, every thing the correct size
You get what you pay for, they are the highest quality.
I will be ordering for my veteran Triumph soon, they are the only manufacture I have found that rolls the edge bead correctly, round, not flat.
P.S. UK buyers, don't forget the import duty (its worth the quality)
Chris (UK) Feb 2018